Crossbreeds

With the recent discussion around limited crossbreeding being considered for EV, I thought I'd try to compile a list of crossbreeds that would perhaps be possible on here, based on our existing breed list. This is what I have so far. If you see any errors or know of something missing, let me know and I'll fix it.

For the purposes of this discussion, a crossbreed is one where BreedA x BreedB = BreedC, which is supported by real life registries for BreedC, or other official resources. Breeds A and B are any of the 20 breeds already on EV.

Crossbreed list by parent breed

Akhal-Teke
x Appaloosa = Nez Perce Horse

Andalusian
x Arabian = Hispano-Arabe
x Friesian = Warlander
x Paint Horse = American Azteca (but not an Azteca)
x Quarter Horse = Azteca (also an American Azteca)
x anything? = Iberian Warmblood

Appaloosa
x Akhal-Teke = Nez Perce Horse
x Arabian = AraAppaloosa
x Paint = Pintaloosa
x Tennessee Walking Horse = Walkaloosa

Arabian
x Andalusian = Hispano-Arabe
x Appaloosa = AraAppaloosa
x Chincoteague = Arabian Pony
x Dutch Warmblood = Arabian Warmblood
x Friesian = Turbo Friesian
x Miniature Horse = Arabian Pony
x Morgan = Morab
x Mustang = Abstang
x Paint = Quarab
x Quarter Horse = Quarab
x Thoroughbred = Anglo Arab
x Trakehner = Arabian Warmblood
x Shetland Pony = Arabian Pony
x Welsh Pony = Welara

Chincoteague
x Arabian = Arabian Pony

Clydesdale
x Gypsy Vanner = Drum Horse

Dutch Warmblood
x Arabian = Arabian Warmblood
x Friesian = Friesian Sport Horse OR Baroque Pinto* (if pinto)

Friesian
x Andalusian = Warlander
x Arabian = Turbo Friesian
x Arabian part breed = Arabo-Friesian (>55% Friesian, 3-40% Arabian, rest from other accepted breeds (see article 5))
x Dutch Warmblood = Friesian Sport Horse OR Baroque Pinto* (if pinto)
x Gypsy Vanner = Gypsian
x Morgan = Moriesian
x Tennessee Walking Horse = Friewalker
x Thoroughbred = Friesian Sport Horse
x Trakehner = Friesian Sport Horse OR Baroque Pinto* (if pinto)

Gypsy Vanner
x Clydesdale = Drum Horse
x Friesian = Gypsian

Lipizzaner

Miniature Horse
x Arabian = Arabian Pony
x anything? = National Sport Performance Pony (must be under 14.2 hands, so draft crosses are probably not accepted)

Morgan
x Arabian = Morab
x Friesian = Moriesian

Mustang
x Arabian = Abstang

Paint Horse
x Andalusian = American Azteca (but not an Azteca)
x Appaloosa = Pintaloosa
x Arabian = Quarab

Quarter Horse
x Andalusian = Azteca (also an American Azteca)
x Arabian = Quarab
x Thoroughbred = Appendix Quarter Horse

Shetland Pony
x Arabian = Arabian Pony

Tennessee Walking Horse
x Appaloosa = Walkaloosa
x Friesian = Friewalker
x Welsh Pony = American Walking Pony

Thoroughbred
x Arabian = Anglo Arab
x Friesian = Friesian Sport Horse
x Quarter Horse = Appendix Quarter Horse

Trakehner
x Arabian = Arabian Warmblood
x Friesian = Friesian Sport Horse OR Baroque Pinto* (if pinto)

Welsh Pony
x Arabian = Welara OR Arabian Pony
x Tennessee Walking Horse = American Walking Pony


Crossbreed list by offspring breed

Abstang
Arabian x Mustang

American Walking Pony
Tennessee Walking Horse x Welsh Pony

Anglo Arab
Arabian x Thoroughbred

Appendix Quarter Horse
Quarter Horse x Thoroughbred

AraAppaloosa
Appaloosa x Arabian

Arabian Pony
Arabian x Chincoteague
Arabian x Miniature Horse?
Arabian x Shetland Pony
Arabian x Welsh Pony (also a Welara)

Arabian Warmblood
Arabian x Dutch Warmblood
Arabian x Trakehner

Arabo-Friesian (>55% Friesian, 3-40% Arabian, rest from other accepted breeds (see article 5))
Friesian x Arabian part-breed

Azteca
Andalusian x Quarter Horse (also an American Azteca)
American Azteca
Andalusian x Quarter Horse (also an Azteca)
Andalusian x Paint Horse (but not an Azteca)

Baroque Pinto* (if pinto)
Friesian x Dutch Warmblood (also Friesian Sport Horse)
Friesian x Trakehner (also Friesian Sport Horse)

Drum Horse
Clydesdale x Gypsy Vanner

Friesian Sport Horse
Friesian x Dutch Warmblood (also Baroque Pinto* if pinto)
Friesian x Thoroughbred
Friesian x Trakehner (also Baroque Pinto* if pinto)

Friewalker
Friesian x Tennessee Walking Horse

Gypsian
Friesian x Gypsy Vanner

Hispano-Arabe
Andalusian x Arabian

Iberian Warmblood
Andalusian x anything?

Morab
Arabian x Morgan

Moriesian
Friesian x Morgan

National Sport Performance Pony
Miniature Horse x anything? (must be under 14.2 hands, so draft crosses are probably not accepted)

Nez Perce Horse
Akhal-Teke x Appaloosa

Pintaloosa
Appaloosa x Paint

Quarab
Arabian x Paint
Arabian x Quarter Horse

Turbo Friesian
Arabian x Friesian

Walkaloosa
Tennessee Walking Horse x Appaloosa

Warlander
Andalusian x Friesian

Welara
Arabian x Welsh Pony (also Arabian Pony)


* Correct name unclear. Could be Baroque Pinto, Barock Pinto, or Bonte Fries.

Rejected breeds
Stonewall Sport Horse or Sugarbush Draft (Appaloosa x draft horse) - seems to just be one person's breeding project that they're calling a breed, but no one else seems to recognise them as such.

Pure-ish horses which can't quite meet our crossbreeding definition
These are horse breeds whose registries require either:
- at least one parent to be that breed,
- AND/OR greater than 50% blood of one of the founding breeds,
and so technically couldn't be produced by breeding two EV pure-breeds together. I'm including them in a separate section rather than rejecting them entirely as they could still have a great deal of potential as a normal pure breed on EV, if the breed both allowed and encouraged outcrossing.
Pintabian (99% Arabian with tobiano) - Arabian outcrosses accepted.
Pony of the Americas - outcrosses accepted to Morgan, Quarter Horse, Appaloosa, Arabian, Thoroughbred. Occasionally also accepts outcrosses to Arabian crosses and Welsh ponies.

Last edited on 2017-02-22 at 05:35:37 by UlyssesBlue (spare)

good idea with the list! I've just got a few to add:

arabian x mustang = abstang

andalusian x friesian = warlander

Added. Thanks!

Hey UB (and Abbey too lol), how do you feel about adding: Appaloosa x Shetland = Pony Of The Americas (also known as POA Pony)? It's a recognized breed, even if it's fairly new compared to others. They're super cute, and would add a Shetland crossbreed to consider, since there's currently none on the list.

Last edited on 2017-02-01 at 13:31:36 by Raptorfang Ω

The problem I've found with POA is that any of the research I've done indicates there are 3 breeds involved rather than just 2 - Arabian is in the mix along with Appaloosa and Shetland. Do you have any sources that say POA can be just Shetland x Appy?

Hm, I'll look into it in a sec, but I'm pretty sure the founding stallion (like the first POA made) was a Shetland x Appy only.

Last edited on 2017-02-01 at 13:48:46 by Raptorfang Ω

http://www.poac.org/breed/history.htm

The founding stud was the mix of 3, an Arabian x Appaloosa bred to a Shetland.

I guess that's so. Before now, something I had read said that he was an Appaloosa x Shetland and didn't say anything about Arabs. Well that stinks, I really wanted them, but it looks like they're out of the picture lol

Gypsy Vanner:
x Clydesdale = Drum Horse
x Friesian = Gypsian

If these were possible to breed; I'd so breed them!!!! :O

Last edited on 2017-02-01 at 14:02:30 by ♥ Feathered Gold ♥

Most of my favorites are all under the dubious -_-

The Stonewall Sports horse is more of a type bred for a specific purpose rather than an established breed. If anything it looks more like a heavier set Knabstrupper.

I'd find it ideal if each breed was able to be crossed at least once with another breed rather than having multiple for one and none for the other.

Absolutely support Drum horses and Morabs.

Could we add like donkeys/mules to the game?

Just a quick fix; Arabians crossed with Appaloosas are known as Araloosas, or singular Araloosa.

I think Araappaloosa and Araloosa are interchangeable. Wikipedia says so anyway :)