Luck factor in shows?
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#222619 Posted on 2020-05-11 08:38:31
Has anyone else faced issues when showing their foundations? It seems to me the horses that are about to reach the next grade are doing strangely poorly. For example a horse of mine I've been trying to hand show anywhere from 240-249 stats (he has 52 nss and full tack) has placed last or close to last in most shows while the placed horses have had 20+ less stats. Can the luck factor really be that big? I thought I understood showing but I'm having a hard time trying to figure this out.
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Posted By Akvelins ⚜️ #93735 Member is Offline 352 forum posts Send A Message |
#222620 Posted on 2020-05-11 08:51:10
Strange. I get exactly the opposite impression from my foundies. As long as they have below 55nss, they seem to be winning all the time. I hardly send them to riding school because most of them win as soon as they reach e.g. 155, 210, 258, 312, etc.
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Posted By ℒ🍓Lenka #122784 Member is Offline 595 forum posts Send A Message |
#222621 Posted on 2020-05-11 09:06:37
Is your tack full upgraded?
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Posted By Olympea #115391 Member is Offline 2408 forum posts Send A Message |
#222622 Posted on 2020-05-11 09:10:03
Yes, the tack is fully upgraded.
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Posted By Akvelins ⚜️ #93735 Member is Offline 352 forum posts Send A Message |
#222623 Posted on 2020-05-11 09:12:05
Hopefully we aren't looking at another showing bug.
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Posted By Olympea #115391 Member is Offline 2408 forum posts Send A Message |
#222625 Posted on 2020-05-11 10:00:05
I am glad that I havent been the ONLY one experiancing this issue.... Yep I have been experiencing the same thing lately.... Tack is fully upgraded on all my show horses so I am not sure what the issue is exactly with the showing. I agree with Olympia; I hope its not another show bug.....
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Posted By Whispering Oak’s #123644 Member is Offline 1600 forum posts Send A Message |
#222628 Posted on 2020-05-11 10:48:00
What training level is the horse at? What are NSS and training level of the horses that beat it?
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Posted By Sonoma #66116 Member is Offline 565 forum posts Send A Message |
#222630 Posted on 2020-05-11 11:21:12
The training level of the horse is 3. The horses that beat him were at level 1-2 with NSS of 51-57 (based on the show results from today).
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Posted By Akvelins ⚜️ #93735 Member is Offline 352 forum posts Send A Message |
#222632 Posted on 2020-05-11 12:05:59
What order did you feed, treat, train, and show?
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Posted By Sonoma #66116 Member is Offline 565 forum posts Send A Message |
#222633 Posted on 2020-05-11 12:48:27
It varied from day to day, either feed-treat-show-train or show-feed-treat-train. Do you think this could somehow affect the show results? I know I sometimes skipped brushing and mucking out because I was in a hurry, but since the happiness was at 100%, I didn't think it would matter. Sadly I don't have record of this to compare it with show performance but it seems like the issue was there already before.
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Posted By Akvelins ⚜️ #93735 Member is Offline 352 forum posts Send A Message |
#222635 Posted on 2020-05-11 12:57:33
That could have some affect. Show entries are based on stats at the time of entry. So anything your horse gained after entering (additional stats, training, etc.) wouldn't have counted for those shows.
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Posted By Sonoma #66116 Member is Offline 565 forum posts Send A Message |
#222636 Posted on 2020-05-11 12:59:22
Also, the luck factor is higher the lower the training level. As training increases horses become more consistent/predictable in themselves, so it begins to ride more on if an opposing horse has a big luck boost at times.
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Posted By Sonoma #66116 Member is Offline 565 forum posts Send A Message |
#222658 Posted on 2020-05-11 20:25:54
Sonoma is right on all accounts. The only other things to note is that for dressage horses grooming is taken into account, so caring first is preferable.
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Posted By Sabriel #84 Member is Offline 1369 forum posts Send A Message |
#222668 Posted on 2020-05-12 06:12:07
I have a couple of active foundations, and they are both doing well when they reach the 50% progression for next level. One is 63 NSS so not so good for showing, and still does more or less well. I always groom and feed, train and show, this order.
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Posted By SpanishMustang #26367 Member is Offline 113 forum posts Send A Message |
#222687 Posted on 2020-05-12 14:04:41
Oh I had this same thing. Especially with a foundie I just bought:
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