*Horse Limit Drop Down

Just a faster way to increase your horse limit. A drop-down menu with different amounts on it like 5, 10, 25, 50 would make increasing horse limit much faster than five at a time. This might also mean having a set price per horse you add. 

Last edited on 2018-03-25 at 14:57:22 by River

I like the idea of having a drop down menu.  I don't think there should be a set price per horse you add.  There's a reason why it gets more and more expensive to expand your horse limit.  In the beginning, it's cheap, so new people can afford it, but later on, it gets really expensive, to make it difficult to truly hoard horses.  Otherwise, if someone wanted to, they could easily create a massive ranch that could house thousands of horses, and buy horses and lock them away, just so no one else could have them.  Imagine if someone could sweep the Rescue Center clear, not to use the horses, but just to keep anyone else from using them.  That sort of thing could happen.

"...if someone wanted to, they could easily create a massive ranch that could house thousands of horses, and buy horses and lock them away, just so no one else could have them."

This is basically all three of my player accounts right now, and really at the discretion of the player if they choose to play the game like this. Some people have busy lives and lock them up to play later,  or yes, if I have a horse that I think can be overbred I will keep them all to myself so they don't fall into the wrong hands. This did not have much to do with the suggestion,  just something about your comment did not sit well with me. 

-Back to the OP,  I love the idea of increasing my hoarding obsession of horses in more than increments of 5 :)

Last edited on 2018-03-24 at 18:17:38 by Notori

Personnally I Think it would be VERY difficult to buy up the whole RC theres usually at least 19 -26 pages of dumped pixels & I have no idea how many horses per page but thats still gonna be a lot!  

I too go through phases of collecting my foundations from the RC & they can be locked for many months until I collect enough of them to match up & start training properly.

I support this suggestion though I'm trying to cut back on the buying at the moment :s

I just put the set price so that it was easier to make the drop-down menu. I already hoard horses. lol. Though I do plan on using them at some point.

@ Notori I believe she's referring to people who don't realize this is a game and want to "save all the horses in the rescue center". Someone made a post about recruiting people to buy ALL the horses in the rescue center like a week or two ago to train and sell off later....

@ OP i love this idea mostly because i hate when i need to buy like 20 horse slots and have to scroll down over and over :(

Last edited on 2018-03-24 at 13:21:38 by Larka

Notori - I am not referring to people who just have large herds, or have a lot of them locked.  A large herd is not what I consider "horse hoarding."  Nor is it holding on to the horses you breed rather than selling them.  What I consider horse hoarding is deliberately buying horses in a way that prevents other people from having access, such as emptying the Rescue Center (which is something that is proposed every so often, but is not currently feasible, because it is too expensive for most to adopt more than a handful of horses at a time.)  

If horse limit expansion was turned into something where five slots cost the same no matter how many horses you can already have, it would have to be a very low price, or new players would never be able to expand their herds.  That would make it entirely possible, in fact, fairly easy to make farms that can house horses in the thousands, at which point it would be child's play to clear out the Rescue Center, especially if several players teamed up, which has been suggested, as I mentioned, multiple times.

I currently have a higher horse limit than you do, Notori, and have had locked horses in the hundreds, so obviously I am not referring to that kind of scenario.  In fact, the key to my meaning was in the very quote you put in your comment - "just so no one else could have them."

I have always stood up for every player's right to take care of their own horses in the way they deem fit.  If you want to breed at 3, or breed a stallion 57 times, go ahead.  If you want to geld a stallion, or cull a foal, go ahead.  If you want to keep your lines exclusive, then great.  However, if someone is playing in such a way that they are denying another player access to a feature of the game (which would happen if someone was successful in draining the Rescue Center) then I will raise objections.

100% agree with Confessor (pretty much as usual at this point lol)

Whenever topics such as so-called "overbreeding" come up, I've always made know that my opinion stands the same. Overbreeding is not exactly a term I believe in, it's not real. Its just people getting frowned upon for breeding as many horses as they like, and that's really kind of bothersome. 
I mean, if you found a horse you really like, then awesome! But getting a horse simply because they have the potential of being "overbred" falls into the line of "just so no one else could have them". There are no wrong hands, it's just hands of people who enjoy their own breeding habits and there is nothing wrong with that.

<sup>I would support this option if the prices remained the same as now, as in for every 5 you buy it increases. You'd be calculating the increase against the amount of stables you already had and for every group many you are purchasing. Or like the deluxe tack repair feature, charge a premium rate on top of the increase fee. Even though I probably wouldn't have much use for it since I loathe expanding right now. 

Do not support keeping the set price. It should be rewarding to be able to afford to expand your stables, kinda like a business/rl. It is a management game after all, you should never be able to buy more than you can manage.</sup> 

My opinion still stands that people are entitled to play the game however they choose to :)

A few months ago I did buy some nicely colored GVs and came to realize that the parents were very over bred, so what did I do? I adopted all of the parents so that I could own them. They are very low statted horses that I did not want to breed again, I just wanted to secure the namesake of the foals I had purchased by making sure the parents did not breed any other foals down the line. They are being taken care of and maybe every now and then put into training, but I do not plan on breeding them again, just waiting for them to die, basically. To each their own I guess. 

I literally just said that I stand up for every player's right to play the game and raise their horses how they wish.  Why on earth do you think we are in disagreement?  I am confused.

So yeah, I am opposed to changing the game in a way that will make it easy for some players to pretty effectively block others from using key game features.  This in no way limits anyone's ability to play the game how they please - in fact, it protects players' access to the game.

If you want to buy the parents of a horse you own, go right ahead.  At no time in this thread have I ever said you shouldn't be allowed to do that.  You're pulling that out of thin air.  I fully support your right to buy whatever horse is for sale, and do whatever you want with that horse while you own it, just as I also fully support anyone's right to breed their horses as many times as they please (because there is no such thing as "overbreeding", really.)  They can breed their horses 100 times, and if they put them up for sale, you can buy them and never breed them again, and both ways are legitimate ways to play the game if that's how you want to do it.

But yeah, to make a change to the game that would make it easy for a small group of players to hoard all the rescue center horses, in my mind, would be detrimental to gameplay, and I would be sorry to see it happen.

*adds 2 cents*

Rescue Center horses are generally EC horse rejects. Not all, just a lot of them. At least from what I have seen. I don't understand how it can be considered "denying players" horses if they are essentially the same horses you can get at the EC? Granted, I know each foundie is "unique" but to what extent? Not one that makes a huge difference except for the horses that players usually keep and don't put in the EC.

The idea of someone "clearing out the RC" is a bit ridiculous, wouldn't peoples think? And if one did clear it, it would be "full" in a day or 2. And it takes FOREVER for horses to "die" here so I really don't see how that is actually a viable concern or point...? Even with a bunch of horse slots. But what should it matter if people are allowed to "play the game and raise their horses as they wish," eh?  ;)

As for the actually reason for this post, I don't support. Maple sums up my thoughts as it should be something that is worked towards, not just a given. For me, I don't see a point to changing something that is already functional and works well as is.

Everyone seems to be focused on "This might also mean having a set a price per horse you add".
Not on the actual suggestion of a dropdown pick-a-number menu for purchasing stalls. 

I, for one, would love to be able buy just 1 stall; because sometimes that's all I need to grab that perfect pixel I've been looking for but I don't want to spend the money for 5.
So I support. 

Last edited on 2018-03-24 at 21:04:39 by Odella

Confessor's point is similar to the right to free speech: Your right to play the game how you want ends when it affects another player's right to play the game how they want. That's all they were trying to say.

This is far from my list of most needed things, but I don't see how it would hurt if this is added, as long as the price is kept the same as it is now. But instead of a drop-down, why not a text box where you can enter any number you want and it calculates how much it would cost based on how many you're buying and how many you already have? A drop-down I would prefer to stick to groups of 5 so it doesn't get cluttered, but with a text box you could enter any number you wanted.

Last edited on 2018-03-25 at 06:46:23 by Syrien ? ☽

Considering that there have been multiple instances of people asking for people to join with them for the express purpose of keeping the rescue center empty, and that they have generally found plenty of people willing to participate, and have mainly been deterred by how terribly expensive it would be to expand their horse limits to those levels, yes, I do actually think it would be a mistake and a detriment to general game play to make it too easy to expand those horse limits.

And you underestimate the value of a rescue center horse.  They are considerably less expensive.  I relied heavily on the rescue center when I was a new player, and I still use it frequently.  The sort of horse I look for would cost ten times as much from the equine center, and with the rescue center, I know exactly what kind of horse I will get, where with the equine center, I may have to try several times before I find one that suits my needs.  The rescue center is an immensely valuable resource to new and old players alike, and those horses should remain available for those who rely on them.  

Syrien has described my intentions exactly.

And Deadpool, I do have to say that I find it very disingenuous of you to come here to argue with me directly (it may not be my thread, but you replied directly to me) when you just sent me a "cease and desist" letter banning me from commenting on any of your threads, after only two comments of mine on a post of yours, neither of them inappropriate in any way, where I discussed your pricing, mainly because I was hoping to become a regular customer of yours.  If you don't want me talking to you, why are you over here trying to argue with me?  I have no issue with leaving you alone if that is what you wish, but I must then request that you also leave me alone.