[ADDED] *White Listed As A Pattern

The horse would show up as entirely white, yes, but in the "color" section, it would say the color underneath of that. In the "pattern" section, it would say "white".
This would help the game by making it easier to breed white horses to try and breed for what's underneath. Many people understandably don't like whites because it covers the base coat. This is kinda sad, because white is quite rare in some breeds.
Please, DO NOT scream about how "white is a color!!!!". The game calls white a pattern: you can get it in the marking randomizer, and it is considered a pattern on the custom horse tool. If you think white SHOULD be considered a color, then I suggest you make a different suggestion. This isn't about that. Thanks.
Thoughts? If you don't support, please comment why! :)
Also, sorry if this has already been suggested. There's too many pages for me to sift through right now.

Last edited on 2018-02-05 at 10:47:47 by River

I'm not sure I entirely agree - I would almost rather this be handled similarly to grey. For example, a bay horse that had the white marking might have the color listed as

Bay (white)

Just like we have Bay (greying) for a horse with grey. This would make it clear what the horse's base coat is, while keeping the genetic elements that cover the entire coat (ie white and grey) separate from the other 'paint' markings, none of which entirely conceal the underlying coat color of the horse.

I like that suggestion too, River ^^
Just anything, really, that would still tell us the coat underneath.

Last edited on 2017-01-06 at 13:43:27 by Raptorfang Ω

I like River's suggestion, too...but in general, knowing what's underneath would be really nice! :)

I support as some light reading I did earlier today suggests that "dominant white" is not a coat color so much as it is a white spotting pattern in extreme form.

http://equinetapestry.com/2014/03/w-is-for-white-spotting/

http://equinetapestry.com/2014/03/names-categories-and-descriptive-terms/

Last edited on 2017-01-06 at 15:43:47 by Årty- ∩Minis∩

I think either the original suggestion of the horse listed as the base color with "white" under patterns or base (white) would be decent.

Arty, it's not just suggested. White spotting IS a pinto pattern and has been regarded as such for a good while now. Essentially White Spotting mutations would have been Sabino2-20+ if geneticists had made the connection sooner, but there's no point in swapping names so much lol.

~I just wanted to point out to Arty that the picture of the palomino sabino (?, I didn't actually read it) TB in your first link is TO DIE FOR~
Thanks for commenting everyone!

That would be Sato, a son of Puchilingui. He has the White Spotting 5 pattern. Thoroughbreds don't carry Sabino1.

Thought I'd bring this topic back, as a discussion about the subject has arisen.

I support this. I don’t agree with River’s first point since it will still appear to newer players that white is a colour :)

Support it (from the bottom of my heart) ;-)

Definitely support. I have a couple whites on other accounts and it would be a lot more helpful to decide breedings if I didn't have to actually check the genotype to find out what's underneath.

I think the reason why white is listed as a color is because, to the outside observer, without any genetic information on the horse, the horse appears to be white, unlike other patterns where you have a visual cue to the base color of the horse.  Giving the horses' base colors when they are white is giving a clue to genetics without having to pay to get it tested.  Every other horse in the game does not get that information given away for free - you can tell a bay tobiano is a bay tobiano just by looking, if you know your horse colors and patterns, without even looking at how it is labelled.  

There is little reason to test for genetics if you know too much about a horse's genetics beyond the visuals.  If you want the extra insight, you should pay the money.  That's how I feel, anyway.  

^ I don't see that much of a problem with it as it is quite honestly, and I'm more than willing to pay. I made this post a while ago and only dug it up because there was talk about it. I agree with your reasoning behind why white is considered a color, and I get what you're saying about this essentially giving away information for free. However, I'd still say that there'd be plenty of reasons to genetic test your horses even if this was implemented (like if you wanted to see if your horse was Ff, Gg, etc.).

Last edited on 2018-02-04 at 09:02:00 by Raptor

I would not object to a warning being placed on the color/marking changing items to make sure people realize which one they need to use to get rid of white, though.