CH manual stat buy

With the advent of the new credit marking applicators (yay!) it seems that the CHC (custom horse creator) has kind of fallen to the wayside. With stats and conformation being the unruly beast that they are, its can be a bit of a gamble when you are breeding horses for a certain discipline.

The suggestion:

Add a manual point buy system to the CHC so you can adjust stats, within a set range, when you custom create your horse.

How point buy works:
So you have a pool of points to distribute as you see fit between the desired stats you want. This pool is limited. You cannot lower stats below a certain number, and you cannot raise them over a certain number.

SO for example, the pool for a foundation horse would be out of 100 (as that is what they are all generated with a total sum of), which is 20 base stat across the board (5 stats).

So for the visual folk, that is your base stat pool. (I'm adding this because stat buy is confusing as heck and it trips me up lol).

STR: 20
SPD: 20
AGI: 20
INT: 20
END: 20

ALL:100

We know that would net you a 60NSS horse in any discipline you so desire, which is seen as the generally agreed upon showing "benchmark" for horses. Your mileage may vary per discipline.

How do you make it work?

Give a pool of 6-8 points to distribute as the player sees fit from a starting base of 20. 
So for example, if I decided to drop the NSS stats by -6 total and that netted me +6 to redistribute to the target stats for my discipline (racing). 

STR: 19 [-1]
SPD: 22 [+2]
AGI: 18 [-2]
INT: 17 [-3]
END: 24 [+4]

ALL:100

Does this make things unfair?
If a max low is set for each stat, and a max high is set for each stat, it doesn't devalue really good pulls that you get and it ensures you will at least get a horse useable in the discipline of your choice. I would really argue that setting the lowest NSS possible to something like 54-55 is pretty middle of the road and is a nice perk to using the CHC.

What does the cost difference look like?
Well depending on how lucky you're feeling the EVC would range from 8 credits for only using rng applicators, to the max end of 11 credits for all custom applicators, NOT including any flaxen, silver, sooty or pang (kind of hard to quantify since only a few breeds have all off those genes, and you can rng the base stuff without touching them). If you have a breed with 2 applicator genes (generally pretty commong amongst most breeds) you are adding 4 for a grand total of 15 credits.

So at the end of the day, to pull a random horse out of the EC, and fully deck it out is still cheaper than making a custom horse and gambling on the stats.

Some general knowledge:
The lowest I believe you can pull for the EC is a 42 NSS. 
The lowest a stat can be is about 8-9 and the highest a stat can be is about 30-31 on pulled foundations.
Conformation for custom horses tends to be on the higher side point wise, however you can pull high (64-65) confo horses from the EC as well.

So all in all, I don't think its really game breaking. It rewards players for spending credits, it doesn't create ultra broken show horses, and you get to have your pretty foundations without searing your eyeballs looking through 100+ plus pulls because for some reason the EC won't give you a nice colt without 47 conformation.


That is all.

Last edited on 2020-10-23 at 18:36:14 by ᵍ ᵒ ᵃ ᵀ☀

I too, have brought up the same issues with the current custom creator. As it is now, it's actually cheaper and more of a benefit, for players to create customs with store foundies. They would play less to use applicators on a store horse with nss geared to their horses' discipline of choice, than to spend all the credits on a custom created in any random discipline. 

I know of another game who has a creator that works in a similar way, whereby you are alotted x number of stats that can be moved around to adjust base stats to be more suited to the specific discipline you're wanting to assign to that horse. 

I totally support this because as it stands right now, the custom creator is really not the best option, imo , to  create a custom horse.

Yeah I am used to point buy systems from playing various RPGs so it kind of seems intuitive. 

Honestly, if coding all of that was too much of a hassle or whatever, I would just be happy with a simple drop down that lets you choose the foundations discipline for whatever you would want it for, and will just RNG your stats within a range of like 50-60nss. 

Last edited on 2020-10-20 at 08:12:56 by ᵍ ᵒ ᵃ ᵀ☀

Generally support the idea, but I've pulled as low as 42 base nss from the EC - but I wouldn't want custom horses to be able to be guaranteed to be as low.

See here

Edited to add: This was a post recode horse.
Edit again: And there are also several 66.XX confo EC horses floating around. Not that that's what this post was about, but since it was mentioned. Also, customs have ALL good confo regardless of overall score.

Last edited on 2020-10-23 at 18:29:36 by Sonoma