Pedigree ruined?

When does everyone consider a breeding line to be ruined?? As in if a deceased horse appears in the pedigree? If someone gelded their stud and then proceeded to name it gelding? (or other names but not really names) If you know a horse is overbred in the horses pedigree do you cull it? What does everyone consider overbred? 

I'm quite strict in these question: for me the breeding line is ruined if 1) there is a deceased horse in the pedigree; 2) the horse is linebred or inbred (have the same horses in pedigree). 

I consider a horse overbred if it has more than about 7-8 foals, but I rather stop the breeding of my horses at 3-5 foals. If the community would be bigger and there were more horses and lines, it couldn't be a problem, but at the moment it is - at least for me.
I don't mind having a horse from an overbred one, but it may make it hard later to search for outside horses for breeding, therefore I think twice before breeding to that horse.

Last edited on 2020-03-09 at 15:01:45 by Olivia

Do you typically check the pedigree all the way back to foundation?

Also what are the difference between some say deceased you can still see the horse; some that say deceased, you can't view horse; then some say deceased in red.

Last edited on 2020-03-10 at 11:26:33 by Aprilis » 3

I was also wondering about this, because I have a mare whose dam is deceased, but she was a foundation bred mare and it says that on my mares pedigree. So, is that still considered ruined?

If you can't view the deceased horse, it's probably because its records have been deleted. 

What is considered overbreeding is kind of personal preference. I usually only produce one foal per horse, but that's not the case for everybody, and I usually breed my own horses rather than using studs etc so I don't have tons of perspective on these other questions.

Yes, I'm that kind of player who checks the pedigree all the way back to foundations... But it's really personal preference and I know that I'm far more picky with the horses I breed to or buy.

I don't prefer horses with "Deceased" in pedigree because in this case I can't decide if it was inbred or linebred which is a total "no-go" for me.

Would horses that were once bred and then gender swapped, and then bred later on show as deceased? I know a long time ago I bred one and then swapped its gender. (Long time ago like horse #62148 ish) My horses are close to relics.

Last edited on 2020-03-12 at 16:25:45 by Aprilis » 3

That is an old horse! especially since now that is no longer something to worry about as you can't change the gender of a horse after breeding to it. 

Personally I never really consider a horse "ruined" by anything in it's lines, but I'm biased. Like you my lines are virtually ancient and from a time when there were more breeds and allowed deletion as well as many other accounts that did not transfer over into the recode. If I checked all the way back to the very start in most of my lines I'm sure there's be any of those things, but the lines I have stretch for 10+ generations in most cases so as long as there's no first page inbreeding and the horses are compatible I don't really care. 
Personally I try to use horses with less than 10-15 foals so I don't run into problems finding outside stock later. that said I don't get rid of my studs/broods if they end up with a lot of foals, I just raise the prices a bit every time they're bred to and that usually makes them stay under 15ish foals.

And the horses that say Deceased and don't have a link are from before the recode and before records were stored for deleted horses, which is why there's no record at all.

I don’t consider anything ruined so long as they are capable of producing foals that outperform (wether that be in stats, show placings, color, or conformation) that parent. 

i do like when the pedigree includes horses with real names, but since the pedigree has 0 effect on gameplay beyond personal goals, i really don’t care too much. 

then again, i also don’t mind inbreeding and don’t believe that over-breeding is a bad thing, so take my advice with a grain of salt ;)