Pricing sale horses?

I know I'm probably not the ONLY one with this issue, but how does everyone price their sale horses? It seems a lot of my sale horses are priced too high for most people.

I'm still working on that, I think since it's so much easier to get 1k stats now horses aren't priced by the 10k per 100 stats rule anymore

I sort of guesstimate on a sliding scale.  $50k is about the max I sell a horse for atm, so I save the price for low non-stat horses.  Most are priced more around 20-30k.  And they do sell on occasion.

I've been doing about 10k and then adding 1k per desirable gene, 1k per 10 conf points above 50 (so 1k for 60, 2k for 70 etc) and about 1k per 100 stats. -1k for each grey gene and -1k per 10 below 50 for conf.
I've only really bought aged foundations from people that have the genes I want, or random horses who have foundation level stats so I haven't figured pedigrees into it. Though I probably wouldn't really figure pedigrees anyway unless there was an influx of a particular horse's bloodline on a market to the point where finding a breeding partner would be difficult due to the inbreeding block(this can be a problem sometimes)

Generation horses with great stat breeding would definitely get a good boost at 1k per 100 stats as it would be 10k right there if it had 1000 stats, plus base raising it to 20k, then genes

I've also been looking at what ev horses make in their lifespans through showing, 50k is the highest I've seen so far so I try to price with that taken into consideration. If I cant make money off of a horse, then is buying it really a contribution to me or is it a set back? Over 50k is really just going to be a set back and the only way I'd pay something like 100k for a horse is if it's practically perfect to what I need and I dont want to have to deal with other people offering on it.
I realize this kind of pricing is a lot lower than the previous 10k per 100 stats, but that pricing was from an old system and I dont believe its sustainable anymore, at least not right now

Last edited on 2018-11-19 at 01:33:09 by ξιίzα Ð

Hey, I am new to Equiverse and I am also in need of desperate help, I am just gonna send you a link to my question because I posted it on the wrong topic! XD
Thank you,
Allanna

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Last edited on 2018-12-01 at 12:05:33 by Allanna

Unfortunately, because the horses you're selling have high nss.. they arent really worth much because they wont do well showing nor would they be good producers if you bred them..

I noticed the 2 geldings were from my lines.. so I bought them back from you so I could retire them from the game.. 

It's very difficult to breed down nss stats in lined horses and unless you own or have access to horses with single digit nss... it would take a long time to breed down those nss... 

You only have the one quarter horse gelding left now.. :o)

Tysm for buying them from me :D

Two questions
1. What does NSS mean?
2. How do I avoid it in later arcs?

Thank you, 
Allanna

You are most welcome dear...

NSS or sometimes also noted as NDS, means non specific stats or non discipline stats.. these are the stats that are NOT desired in the specific discipline you are training/breeding horses for.. 
For example:
The quarter horse gelding you have left to sell.. He is trained in western discipline
starry night

For western disciplined horses, you want to focus on feeding them treats that build up the areas of their specific training.. For him, and all other western trained horses.. His main training focus would be on building up intelligence and speed...So you would feed western horses.. carrots and apples.. to build these areas..
You want the unwanted or non discipline stats to be as low as possible... So you want strength, agility and endurance numbers as LOW as possible.. in western horses.. 

Here's one of my western horses to compare your gelding to. Note the very low numbers in the areas we dont want to train or breed up the western horse in. ( please be aware, to get these kinds of extremely low numbers, takes a long time of breeding down...)
Windspun Repellent

 Its best to start with foundation horses that have less than 60 in their total non discipline stats

Here is an example of an ideal foundation horse, with low non spec stats..If you add up the 3 numbers in the areas you DONT want your horse to have high stats in , they total 52 ( 17+19+16=52) this is the total nss or nds.. try to find horses with the lowest nss you can.. they will make good show horses and when you breed 2 horses with low nss together, your foals will have lower nss and also make good show horses... Its a bit complicated but you will get the hang of it as you go.. It takes time nowadays, to breed down those nss.. just focus on finding horses with low nss and train/feed/school and show them until theyre older ( at least 18... ) that way, their overall stats will be higher and the foal will be born with higher overall stats and low nss stats..

52 non spec stats

Hello,
tysm for replying to me, my friends were so jealous XD

So, I only level up Speed + Intelligence for western horse and try to get strength. agility and endurance as low as possible?

Thank you,
Allanna

Yes, thats exactly right Allanna.. Only feed western disciplined horses green apples and carrots... only focus on building up speed and intelligence.. and keep strength, agility and endurance as low as possible :o)

Thank you! :D
Cya around. This is totally off topic but do you know how to lvl up ASAP?

Thank you,
Allanna

Oh, I almost forgot, are Riding Schools: Group Lessons recommended?

Thank You,
Allanna

@ Copy
I usually have better chance if I post an interest check thread and see what players are willing to offer. If there's no interests, then I will just kill them off or put them up for cheap and hopes that someone will buy them.
The pricing standards change on daily basis and are different for every breed. It is hard to measure the values so it is best if you just check if there's any potential buyers to estimate your horses' values.

@ Allanna
To level up quicker:
- Train your horses in correct grade and discipline will give you higher EXP. For example, if your horse is a local western: train him in Western Arena with Local Grade. You will get lower EXP (or none, I can't remember lol) if you train your horse in Western Arena, but in National grade. Even lower EXP if you trained in incorrect discipline arena.
- Show/Riding School your horses daily. For riding school, group lesson will give you highest amount of EXP out of all three lessons.
- Go on Leisure Riding - you can get small amount of EXP from it. Do it often as you can when you're log in.
- Wish for the Horses at The Fountain. You can get EXP from it (not all the time).

Last edited on 2018-12-01 at 19:02:43 by ωιςκεδ

Tysm,
Allanna

<sup>I have a formula built up in excel that takes into account horse care, age/stats, generation, colour, confo, and non-speciality stats that averages around 12-25k depending on the horse. I've not been using it as much since I know usually what the results will be. i.e a second generation horse will be around 12-15k, a fourth generation might be 20-40k, but a precode horse with 1k+ birth stats will be around 50-150k, all with vary breed, colour/conformation and non-speciality stat factors. Lately I've been looking at parent show earnings (if they've been shown a lifetime) to gauge what the foal might earn in it's if it's shown so I'll adjust prices based on that. I'm negotiable on all fees above 10k though and feel like prices are fair for my horses and what they might earn, even if I feel like I overpay for new stock sometimes lol. 

I've been having some luck with this method since reducing my prices, and carefully picking which breeds to bother breeding more than once, though I make more money off studs and broods. I increase the fee 2k per foal, a) to encourage diversity in using other studs and b) because said stud technically increases in value with each foal since it's not a cheap breeding and clearly a desirable stud.</sup>