July Paint Horse Club - News

Hi guys! Thank you for choosing me to be the club president for July.

First and foremost:
our club participates in July Club Championships

Entries for Club teams are accepted until 7th July. Don't miss it!

Also, I really would like to know your thoughts about registrations requirements, and which direction the club should be moving in -  what kind of contests you would like to see, what should be added to the club page and so on.

I would like to see registration requirements on colour possibly changed or introduced.

I know paints have so many coat pattern combinations it's hard to gage what's rare, but the colour requirement I think could do with a revue. 

I'd like to see a mascot contest again! And maybe a raise a foal contest too. 

I think maybe condensing the registry and stud requirements down a bit, and adding a breeders directory would be nice for the club layout too :)

Yes, breeders section is a must, I'm tweaking the layout code and I think I added it right. Take a look at the club profile! :)

As for coat colours, I feel they should go as additional bonus to registration requirements. I mean, if a horse has needed stats and confo, it shouldn't be rejected only because it's just plain bay. In the same time, a horse with very colourful coat pattern should be accepted only if it missed confo bar by 5 points or stats bar by 25-30 (numbers are just for example). Requirements for stud book are probably shpud be more strict than registration requirements.

Another idea for registration requirements: make stats + confo to be must have for registration in the club, and stats + confo + colour to must have for registration in the stud book.

Draft of registration requirements and stud requirements:


All horses to be registered in the Paint Horse Club must be of this breed and meet the following stat requirements:

Foundation/Stores horses must have:

• Conformation no less than 52.00       


• Foals - 100 stats.


• 3 y.o. - at least 140 stats.


• 4-7 y.o. - 150-190 stats.


• 8-11 y.o. - 200-240 stats.


• 12-15 y.o. - 250-290 stats.


• 16-19 y.o. - 300-340 stats.


• Older than 19 -  no less than 350 stats.

• Conformation no less than 55.00


• Foals - at least 200 stats.


• 3 y.o. - at least 240 stats.


• 4-7 y.o. - 250-30 stats.


• 8-11 y.o. - 310-350 stats.


• 12-15 y.o. - 360-400 stats.


• 16-19 y.o. - 410-450 stats.


• Older than 19 -  no less than 460 stats.

• Must have at least 500 stats.


• Must have a conformation of 65.00 or higher.


• Must have desirable coat colour.

That looks good to me. Seems as though it will satisfy breeders across the board. And seems  a little more accomadating to new players/ "not yet established" breeders.

I plan to suggest to Abbey a valuation system for clubs, when horses getting assigned to Elite, 1st, 2nd, Hobby classes. If this will be implemented, then we will get ability to make different requirements for new players/foundation horses and established players/lined horses.

I agree, although as conformation is assigned at random I do have a few foundation horses who'd be eligible on stats but not confo (eg. Mumbai, Antwerp, Geneva, Barraiya, Kondole, Dilga, Bunyip, Mar'rallang, red dun, Sheik, buckskin)

ehh, sorry for the long list of horses, hehe. But in the case of foundations, conformation is assigned at random by the EC, not something that can be bred for. I know most EC horses have over 52 for conformation, but in the case of a horse who doesn't meet the conformation requirement, but has stats that are much higher than the stat requirement for their age an exemption could be made? (eg, for Mumbai who is a 6yo foundation with 257 stats, 29108 lifetime points but only a 48.75 conformation score) I would be open to this being only for foundations, and for stallions who don't meet the conformation score to be acceptable as geldings or similar. I personally don't objectively breed for conformation, but more for colour/stats and see conformation as an added bonus to improve so I wouldn't send a horse to the rc if it's conformation stats are lower if it fits my breeding programme otherwise. 

That's the only issue I have with the proposed conformation stat - I think in terms of colour, making a list of 'desirable' additional coat patterns and genes (as well as gene combinations) would be helpful but I know it can also be time consuming so I'd be willing to help with that too :)

@mɐine // εuphoria, thank you for the remark! You're right about foundation horses, not every store horse has lucky combination of colour and confo. Then, if we remove confo from requirement for foundations, we are getting a sort of progressive system of requirements:

Foundations: only stats
2nd gen and up: stats and/or confo
Stud book: stats+confo+colour or stats+higher than min confo

As for the desirable coat colour list, I think I've seen somewhere a statistic what colour are considered to be rare in Paint horse breed, but I may be mistaken and it was not at EV. So I would appreciate any help! :D

Edited draft for club registration requirements:

All horses to be registered in the Paint Horse Club must be of this breed and meet the following stat requirements:

Foundation/Stores horses must have:
  
    Foals - 100 stats.
    3 y.o. - at least 140 stats.
    4-7 y.o. - 150-190 stats.
    8-11 y.o. - 200-240 stats.
    12-15 y.o. - 250-290 stats.
    16-19 y.o. - 300-340 stats.
    Older than 19 -  no less than 350 stats.

2nd and up generations:

    Foals - at least 200 stats.
    3 y.o. - at least 240 stats.
    4-7 y.o. - 250-300 stats.
    8-11 y.o. - 310-350 stats.
    12-15 y.o. - 360-400 stats.
    16-19 y.o. - 410-450 stats.
    Older than 19 -  no less than 460 stats.

Horses of the 2nd generation and up lacking stats requirements may be accepted in case of having conformation higher than 58.00.


All stallions to be registered in the Paint Horse Club Stud Book must meet the following requirements:

    
    Must have at least 500 stats.
    Must have a conformation of 65.00 or higher.
    Must have desirable coat colour.

Desirable coat colour includes following genes: Seal Brown (At), Cream (Cr), Dun (D), Champagne (Ch), Flaxen (f), Silver (Z), Overo (O), Rabicano (Rb), Splash (Sp). (Possibly more?)
  
Horses lacking desirable coat colours may be accepted in the Stud Book in case of having conformation higher than 65.00.