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Breeding for best confo results?

#169951 Posted on 2018-05-10 07:53:36

So I have about 46 akhal tekes that I want paired up. Although I do not think I have an even number of mares and stallions which is fine I can have some lone wolves, doesn't bother me any. I am having trouble doing this myself. Is anyone really good at this? 

Any tips on the easiest and most efficient way to do it? 

I always seem to find what is probably the least efficient way of doing this and end up leaving out a factor or two and then everything I have done is pointless. 

I am willing to pay EVD for help, btw. 


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#169953 Posted on 2018-05-10 08:30:27

I open two windows of chrome and put them side-by-side. I put all the mares on individual tabs in one window and all the stallions in individual tabs in the other window. Then I organize the tabs with confo from highest to lowest for both stallions and mares. 

Then I look at the highest confo stallion and the lowest confo mare. I check to see where, if any, a mare and stallion have poors in the same category. If they do then I go to the second highest confo stallion and compare him with the mare to try and keep two poors from matching up. 

When I'm satisfied with a pairing, I add a number (.01, .02, .03 etc) to the beginning of both horses' names and close their tab.

Then I move on to the next horse. 

an example below (wouldn't pair these horses, but showing you what I meant about widows and tabs, since I thought my description was hard to follow)


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if you need help actually pairing horses together, I may have time to help you on Saturday or Sunday if someone else doesn't offer to help before then c: no EVD expected lolz

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#169955 Posted on 2018-05-10 08:46:09

The best way to get the best confo results is to pair up your horses in a way so that their weakness are paired with a stronger percentage.
    Example: Pair a Teke with a poor neck with a Teke that has a good/excellent neck. And make sure the percentage difference is large so you're more likely getting a foal with a good neck.

A really good example of a lucky breeding is re. Royal Bleu, who came out with a confo of 59.43. 
Her sire is Royalty Gold with an average of 57.38 while her dam, Baby Bleu, had an average of 58.38.
She came out with a confo higher than both of her parents because I balanced out the weaknesses of each parent, making them an excellent match.

However, because conformation is a shot in the dark, you don't always get the best results.
Unnamed has an average conformation of 51.81.
Her sire, Just An Arms Dealer, has a confo of 53.88. Her dam, Empty Reputation, has a confo of 54.38. 
While I did balance out the weaknesses, there is no guarantee that it will work out. Just an Arms Dealer had a 70 confo for his hooves and yet Unnamed had 48. Its all about luck and strategy.
This is why I always breed my horses at least twice because conformation is so unpredictable. 

If you want a time consuming yet really efficient way to pair them up, make a spreadsheet with all of their confos. I used to do that but lost patience, so I use a bunch of tabs and pair them up on the spot.


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#169960 Posted on 2018-05-10 10:01:10

Insomniaglet and RemRem both covered it all.

I haven't breed my horses yet but I am planning on breed them three times to ensure that I have better chance of getting best foal from the pairs.

Insomniaglet's way is the way I paired up my foundations at beginning. However, I removed the numbers once I named them. I used the public note to remember who is their breeding pair.

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#169970 Posted on 2018-05-10 10:40:12

I like to have the pairing number in the name of the horse so that when I go to breed I have an easier time finding the horses that go to one another. Since with foundation projects I'm typically breeding 16-32 horses at one time. 

my naming system contains the generation of horse, the breeding project the horse belongs to (and therefore breed), as well as the pairing number of the horse. i really like to see the important information at a glance c:

though I plan to start adding the paring information in the private notes of the horse as a back-up in case the names get deleted again. 


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#169989 Posted on 2018-05-10 13:52:24

I always pair them up with numbers. So 01. Stallion 01. Mare, 02. Stallion 02. Mare, etc... I just rarely have horses with any poors in their conformation so trying to figure out the easiest least time consuming system on making sure I match the right ones with each other. 

insomniaglet - I never thought to do side by side windows like that before, that would probably make a world of difference. 

RemRem that is so strange that confo would be lower than both parents but I see what you mean that I could still potentially end up not getting the results I want. 


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