Crazy high stat RC horses

Yesterday I got 3 very young 1k+ stated horses from the RC and now three more have been found by a friend, never do I see so many high stat horses in the RC like that. what is going on with that XD

here's one of them http://www.equiverse.com/horse.php?id=697497

In short, they're inbred, overbred, and their confo didn't reach the height of their parents.  The last one is most likely the reason why they were dumped, the other two are why other people really don't pick them up.

They look nice, seem flashy, but for breeders who care about inbreeding and overbreeding to preserve their lines, they would be a hard pass.  For the breeder, it was most likely that they weren't going to contribute well for confirmation in their foals, because at that point you want to keep the ones that surpass their parents.

Last edited on 2017-11-29 at 17:15:11 by Nittrous

Ditto, what Nittrous said  ^^

True on surpassing the parents I did the same when I breed some horses I bought, XD but they so pretty but I can understand why they where dumped now

How does one know if their horse is inbred? You go through every horse in pedigree?
How about overbreeding? The pedigree is full = overbreeding?

/ And by 'pedigree is full' I meant full of non-foundation horses.

Last edited on 2017-11-30 at 07:47:18 by bunnypaw

@bunnypaw, Full pedigrees do not guarantee an inbred / overbred horse.


However if there are multiple ancestors with the same name (or that are related as determined from looking at individual ancestor pedigrees, example, the horse linked above has inbreeding on the sire's side).

Overbreeding can easily be checked by seeing how many foals the horses in the pedigree have produced (example, the above horse's sire has 12 foals, his granddad on his sire's side fathered 37 foals =  very overbred).

 Hope that answers your questions!     :)

Not sure about the inbreeding but I'd think your right about that, I don't really look at pedigrees XD. I believe over breeding is just a horse that has to many foals, the pedigree gains more horses over the time of breeding generations.

No the best at explaining so if someone else has a better explanation go ahead XD

@bunnypaw - 
generally, yes.  If a horse is inbred somewhere in it's history the same horse will show up twice.  Grabbing a random horse from paints - this would be an example of inbreeding: link

Heza Smoking Hot shows up three times under Great-Great-Grandparents, two of those with the same mare.  So the Great-Grandfathers are direct brothers to one another.  This is pretty extensive inbreeding, actually, and it's one of the issues in paints.  Most of the time you'll go back and find that father was bred to daughter (back when it was allowed) or they have a relation through great-great-grandparents (the same sire showing up, but bred to different mares).

Going to a different paint, the first page looks fine.  link - But I know that Charblack is an inbred horse in paints, and clicking on him you can see that.  I also know that the Sparkling line of horses in paints are inbred, generally, or at least overbred, and I avoid them.

Some people only care about inbreeding on the first page, I care about it at any point, and will go through every line of pedigree looking for it (which is why I know what horses are inbred off the top of my head, to make it easier).

Overbreeding is what it sounds like, overbreeding of a horse.  You generally find it in extensive pedigrees, since good horses make more foals with some people, and then you find them everywhere.  One of the highest examples of it in paints is Paint the Town Dun who had 121 foals before retirement. Most of his foals went on to have multiple foals, and now his lines are just everywhere in paints, and will probably be for a very long time.  I won't breed to a horse that will have more than 5 lifetime foals, or is younger that 17 with foals.  Overbred for me would be 5 or more.  Some have a higher number for this, some have lower.  I try not to breed more than 3 times myself, but I make some allowances.

Last edited on 2017-11-30 at 08:32:37 by Nittrous

ᏋᏉᏋᏒᎷᎧᏒᏋ, thank you! I get it now. Learning something new every day in EV! :D:D