Is getting non specialty stats down doable?

So, I have heard some people say they can get their non specialty stats down through breeding in their lines. They make sure there is no non specialty stat gain on their horses before breeding. I have heard others say the average will always be about the same between the two parents. Has anyone gotten the stats down by breeding? 

Assuming there were no non-spec stat gains in the parent horses' lifetimes, a foal's non-spec stats will be a straight average of the parents' non-spec stats. Breeding horses with high non-spec stats to horses with low will allow you to breed down non-spec sats over numerous generations. Unless you breed to pre-recode horses, the lowest you will probably be able to get is around 60 total (ie. 23, 17, 20), but as a very picky breeder, in the 60-ish ballpark would be considered acceptable to me (and most others, I would guess). Hope that helps?

Yes it is doable

Example 1
Example 2

Compare their stats to their parent's stats

I didn't do anything when breeding those two other than pairing with low non-specialty stats partners. I don't know if it was because of a Foundation + Lined pairing, but I doubt it

Yep its taken 10 generations but I have a number of ponies with 6 non spec stats total although my usual figure is 8-16 non spec stats.

Elegant Heist

To be honest I never set out to achieve low non spec stats but then I never use any treats other than what the horses discipline requires.

I'm wondering about this too, Churchill . 
Because if the breeding formula is an average of the parents non spec stats, then it shouldn't be possible. But it seems some players have done ot!

it was possible pre-recode.

i made a suggestion to make it possible now as well, rather than simply averaging the parent's non-spec stats. I don't know if the formula has been altered since that, but if it has there hasn't been an announcement of it.

It's not possible with post-recode horses. It appears possible if they've been fed peppermints, hay cubes, sugar cubes, or treats that don't match their discipline, but if you look at the birth stats you'll see the foal's non-spec stats are not actually lower than the average of both parents.

I have stallions with pre recode stats; here is a new foal I own with pre recode stats FlashFreeze
I need to repair a few of my stallions back to their base stats (on all 3 accounts) when I have the 
extra $$$ to do so, some have already been repaired. I have every horse from the day I started 
playing 5-17-16 and as my main page states my Gypsy's and Mustangs are on seperate accounts.
Unfortunately I didn't start recording DOB's, rescues, adoptions, or purchases right away but for those 
I have done it with I will start making all that info public. Because I locked everything at 15 some
may appear to be over bred when in fact they are almost 2 years old real time. All stallions on ALL 
accounts have base stats public. Anyone interested in breeding non discipline stats down can look 
through my locked studs and message me and we can see what we can work out.
I will trade breedings.

Hey, I'm wondering if anyone has an answer on this. I know the formula that Ulysses calculated,  however, I have seen horses born post recode, bred from post recode horses, that have lower non specialty stats than their parents.

Unless I'm missing something (edit I guess it is possible the parents were fed hay cubes later in life, but they are both foundations, so this seems unlikely)

Last edited on 2018-01-05 at 10:39:25 by marigold sunshine

Marigold Sunshine, if the parent base stats were visible, Im absolutely certain it would show that their base non-spec stats are lower than their current stats. 

As of 3 weeks ago, Abbey has not altered the breeding formula, and does not intend to do anytime soon. Therefore there is no way to breed down the stats of post-recode horses to anything lower than the average of their foundation anscestor’s base stats. (So roughly 60 non-spec stats)

Okay, dang, that person just had some really nice endurance foundation horses!

Actually, I think it is doable. But only by 1 stat if the parents have an odd number of stats.

Last edited on 2018-01-06 at 09:20:18 by marigold sunshine