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#122844 Posted on 2017-09-27 14:53:23

I have 16 horses that I have paired for breeding (All are foundies). now when they breed should I pair the offspring with each other as many as I can then add outside horses or pair the offspring to all outside horses?


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the foundies I have are a mix of black and bay. my goal is to get to all solid bay color, think Budweiser clydes. the ones I have are white with a bit of color. do I need to have the foals paired with solid bays or pair up the white and bays and still work to get solid bay?

lol I hope this makes sense.  

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#122846 Posted on 2017-09-27 15:05:32

I am no expert as I haven't had my first round of foals yet in my ptivate lines, but I am going to match up my foals, then bring in outside foundations when needed only.


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#122849 Posted on 2017-09-27 15:14:13

It's always best to pair lined horses with lined horses whenever possible. Pairing lined horses with foundations usually results in less stats in the resulting foals than a lined x lined pair.


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#122865 Posted on 2017-09-27 18:14:46

so I would need to pair the foals as best I can, then bring in lined horses for ones I don't have mates for. then continue like that? am I understanding that right


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#122866 Posted on 2017-09-27 18:18:54

Pretty much. You pair your foals as best you can, and if you still need partners you can then either buy a compatible horse from another player, or buy a foundation horse to match.


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#122867 Posted on 2017-09-27 18:22:01

Personally, if you are breeding all from foundries right now, I wouldn't bring in lined horses from the outside at all (I would bring in fresh blood with foundies) unless you very carefully select your outside lined horses and scour pedigrees for inbreeding and overbreeding. The fact that you are breeding from all foundies (assuming all previously unbred) means you are establishing a new and exclusive line, which makes products of your line more valuable to other breeders when you sell because there is no way your foals are related to their own lined herds. 

Just my two cents!

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#122889 Posted on 2017-09-28 02:47:32

@ North Yes the 16 I have are unbred  foundations. so what you are saying is breed my 16 pair them up best I can the if I have any left breed them to other foundation horses? to keep the lines clean?


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#122890 Posted on 2017-09-28 03:29:13

Yep, that is what *I* would do anyway! Of course there are lots of right ways to play the game! That is just my personal opinion. ^-^


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#126649 Posted on 2017-11-03 14:14:54

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#126657 Posted on 2017-11-03 15:47:00

It's easier to predict foal colours if you reveal the genotype. Bay is a relatively easy colour to get given a lot of foundies tend to be bay or carry agouti if chestnut. You need to have at least one Extension and one Agouti gene in the foal, so EE Aa, EE AA, Ee Aa and Ee AA are all bay combinations. 

Your black horses will all either be EE aa or Ee aa, you need to cross these with bay clydes to introduce the agouti gene. Bay foundies tend to be homozygous for agouti (will always pass one copy of agouti), so it should be relatively easy to get all bay foals. 

To get a solid bay, i.e get rid of sabino, will require careful consideration to your pairings and may take a few generations. To reduce the likelihood of sabino passing onto foals, you need to pair the homozygous sabinos (SbSb/almost white) with solid horses or to an Sb+ (less white) for a potential Sb+ foal. SbSb horses will always pass on sabino, so you need to avoid pairing two together to maximise your chances. With an Sb+ horse you just need to pair with another Sb+ or solid for a chance of a solid foal, and repeat for future generations. 


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#126681 Posted on 2017-11-03 18:29:40

thank you Maple. that's what I was thinking in (laymen's terms) breed out the white. but you give me the genes to look for. 

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