EVC pricing chat

i'm not sure what this focus on players wasting space by being around or whatever is, am i only "useful" to EV because i play the game side of things? am i only allowed to keep all my money and items because i just happen to like the gameplay? if i someday decide to stop playing around with horses and as a result i am supposed to leave or give up my currency, i would feel less like a player and more like an asset that someone decided to get rid of.

I don't care how much money so and so has and I don't care how you spend it. I'm not understanding any of this tbh. I was inactive for like 5 years and sat on 30 or 40 million and I was soo thankful to have all that when I came back to play. It's my money lol. But when i did need credits, I did notice they skyrocketed and was like dang lol. I do support that idea of finding them on trail rides and such! :D 

Are you seriously going to say that it's fine for a GAME to have a majority population of non-players who doesn't play the game? 
Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying to turn this game into a community forum or something. At this point, we should just get rid of the game side altogether and convert EV into a community hangout since that's what the majority seems to push for.

yeah lol have fun with that 🙋‍♀️ I'm not staying to see that. And as for Dopey, I think since you actually came back instead of confirming you'll be gone forever it's fine that you left that fortune as now you're doing something with it. And I'm glad someone agrees, it's not like you'll get 15 credits every ride, so it'd be fair, and it's something excited if it were to happen :D

? i never said that? i'm saying that it's fairly common for a game to have people who don't care about playing the game, the devs don't care about what they do as long as there's people playing. why? because the game has so many players, it doesn't matter if a good amount of people aren't doing gameplay. i'm logged into another game right now that has 100s of people who just log in to chat, there are measures taken to prevent server overloads but otherwise no one cares. if there's always going to be people who don't play the game regardless of the game's health i don't see how the blame should be on the players when it's the game that isn't fun to play.

if your playerbase is not what you want, getting rid of doesn't help. improving the game in ways that encourages new and old players to actually play it does. i have never seen a game that drove out players being successful, new players found the lack of community boring and left. i am of course not talking about mass bans of players who were being harmful to others through bullying and things like that, that's a situation of rules being broken.

@Deer if you really read and understood my post, you'd know that I was talking about the credit sales🙄not the artists🤦‍♀️I don't need to look through the forums a little bit, I already know that. You need to look through my comment a little bit😅

Hey, no need to be rude or condescending about it. I apologize if my wording came off as rude, but I'm just stating the fact that if ANYONE just looks through the forums they can see that no artist is selling EVC for that price. You included the artist community in with your comment though. There is nothing in your comment relating your information equates to the Credit Sales tab. It's just not mentioned. You just mention players trying to wring currency out of other players. I fully read and understood your comment. There's no need for the emojis and passive aggressive tones. 

So I think we can agree that there is a problem with how some players choose to resell EVC. Looking at the credit shop where prices are HighTM for no reason. Even some trades that ask for more than it seems a majority of players seem to assess a credits worth. Good talk, y'all.

sorry, even irl I'm just passive-aggressive :') I'll go reword it, it made sense in my head I guess.

Nah, you need to leave it. That way people know what we're talking about.

Guys, please be respectful towards each other. If this cannot be a productive conversation then this thread will be locked and warnings given out. 

nah I just put parentheses and said (of credit sales btw, had to edit) :)

i understand if people feel this has gone a direction they don't feel comfortable discussing and are discouraged from chatting in here. i'll bring up again some other parts of the discussion, not to ignore what we've said recently but to remind people there's quite a lot to this issue and lots of differing opinions, it's very hard to say this is just a 2-sided debate.

•What are some ways we could add to earn EVC? So far many people seem to agree we should have more ways, that there are too few chances to earn it compared to how many ways to spend it. Ideas include having a rare chance on trail rides to find a credit, and having them as a level-up bonus. An idea i've seen before is player quests, perhaps some harder quests could reward a credit? Player milestones have also been suggested, maybe those could reward credits if you achieve a very difficult one? (also isn't EVC a rare drop from the fountain or am i mixing it up with EVC purchasables like auto-show?)

•There's been debate about regulating and/or capping credit sale prices for years. What are people's thoughts? On one hand, having huge prices on your EVC means few people will buy it. So the argument that driving EVC prices up is not profitable and doesn't work into the seller's favor can be made, but on the other hand there are a few people who will buy crazy high EVC, which in turn means selling credits for a high price is worth it if the seller is patient. In turn it will keep happening and continue to make credits inaccessible. Another argument is that people don't want to be restricted and want to have the right to sell as high as they want, additionally it's been brought up that the credit sales page can be regulated all we'd like but people can still sell for larger prices through the forums, PMs, and trades. Should credit sales be regulated even in those areas?

•One of the biggest reasons people seek credits is to have a deluxe. Reasons for having a deluxe vary, some want to create shows, some want to run a stable, some just want a pretty tag, some enjoy the extra EVD perks you get from having a deluxe. Many want all of the above. Should some deluxe perks be given to basic players as well, such as allowing all player types to have custom tags or the ability to run shows? Would that ease the demand for credits? And would that in turn impact the game negatively (ex: by having less people buy credits and support the game) or positively (ex: less demand = less people buying at outrageous prices) or both?


i'll also update the main post with what's been discussed here so far, just maybe tomorrow as i'm very tired right now lol.

Last edited on 2022-11-23 at 20:43:25 by forgottenland/bubbles

@maple: sorry if my tone has been too rough at any point, i'm genuinely not upset at anyone but i'll also try to watch how i word things as well